GRAN vs TAFL vs BFL - Is history going to repeat again?

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Postby Blue Whale » Thu May 18, 2017 12:01 am

I can understand your situation my friend. But I invite you to face the reality. These three counters are retailer driven counters. Whenever they get fed up with one share they just switch the stock, that is it. I have two years of good experience working as an investment advisor in my very early stage of career. So let be it. let it trade where it supposed to be according to majority view.

When the right time arrives the same people who threw it away as garbage will chase behind and buy at a premium price. That is the nature of stock market dear friend. keep calm and let's hunt some MAL,LDEV,CSF,DIPD, etc tomorrow with the crowd.

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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 12:09 am

Blue Whale wrote:I can understand your situation my friend. But I invite you to face the reality. These three counters are retailer driven counters. Whenever they get fed up with one share they just switch the stock, that is it. I have two years of good experience working as an investment advisor in my very early stage of career. So let be it. let it trade where it supposed to be according to majority view.

When the right time arrives the same people who threw it away as garbage will chase behind and buy at a premium price. That is the nature of stock market dear friend. keep calm and let's hunt some MAL,LDEV,CSF,DIPD, etc tomorrow with the crowd.

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Let me politely put the reality ..... One Dirty Game is being played by who so ever it could be one or connected few in CSE Market...... Now that is not part of this whole exercise of buying and selling......

If someone want to buy buy at CMP..... dont sell repeatedly with the sole INTENTION to panic innocent retailers .... day in day out [-x

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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 12:24 am

Those who do such evil act will have to repay in this world or at the death bed...... so this is not the price it is suppose to trade..... ARTIFICIALLY demoted with the sole intention to BUY low isnt it .... So that RETAILER lets call him Joe bought @75 5000 shares of GRAN technically sold not knowing this DRAMA. Isnt a SIN his HARDEARNED money was stolen by ..... the PLAYERS in this DIRTY GAME. Feel Sorry....
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Postby Shadow walker » Thu May 18, 2017 6:07 am

Blue Whale wrote:Shark shall we keep these three for a while with out talking.

The answer for your question is very simple and straight forward.

if I give the answer of one retail investor gave to me today at trading floor then you can think the fate of these three.

"මචන් මේක තියන් ඉදල මට ඇති වෙලා. මම ගත්තෙ 75ට ඒත් කරන්ඩ දෙයක් නෑ. මම ගත්තු 5000ම 68ට හලල අද LADV ටික්ක ගත්ත. මගේ ඇඩ්වයිසර් කිව්ව 4.50 ට දෙන්න පුලුවන් කියල"

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මමත් GRAN 79 දි විකුනුව.. 2015 මුලින්ම GRAN ගත්ත දවසෙ ඉදන් අවුරුදු දෙකක් විතර මම GRAN එක්ක හිටිය.. company එකක් profit එක අඩු වෙනකොට තියාගෙන ඉන්න මම කැමති නැ.. 2nd quarter එකේ report එකත් එච්චර හොද නැති වෙයි වගේ තමයි දැන්නම් පේන විදිහට.. =((

There areso many shares that shows a Q to Q profit growth but GRAN shows a profit reduction.. plantation , insurance, bank and finance.. we can buy any of them.. :-B

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Postby topcat » Thu May 18, 2017 6:14 am

I never ever trust brokers. Normally happen opposite what they say.. :))
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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 7:29 am

I give below some market manipulation behaviour that we should take SERIOUSLY from now on.

Stock Bashing:
"This scheme is usually orchestrated by savvy online message board posters (a.k.a. "Bashers") who make up false and/or misleading information about the target company in an attempt to get shares for a cheaper price. This activity, in most cases, is conducted by posting libelous posts on multiple public forums. The perpetrators sometimes work directly for unscrupulous Investor Relations firms who have convertible notes that convert for more shares the lower the bid or ask price is; thus the lower these Bashers can drive a stock price down by trying to convince shareholders they have bought a worthless security, the more shares the Investor Relations firm receives as compensation. Immediately after the stock conversion is complete and shares are issued to the Investor Relations firm, consultant, attorney or similar party, the basher/s then become friends of the company and move quickly to ensure they profit on a classic Pump & Dump scheme to liquidate their ill gotten shares. (see P&D)"

Pump and dump:
"This scheme is generally part of a more complex grand plan of market manipulation on the targeted security. The Perpetrators (Usually stock promoters) convince company affiliates and large position non-affiliates to release shares into a free trading status as "Payment" for services for promoting the security. Instead of putting out legitimate information about a company the promoter sends out bogus e-mails (the "Pump") to millions of unsophisticated investors (Sometimes called "Retail Investors") in an attempt to drive the price of the stock and volume to higher points. After they accomplish both, the promoter sells their shares (the "Dump") and the stock price falls like a stone, taking all the duped investors' money with it."

Runs:
"When a group of traders create activity or rumors in order to drive the price of a security up. Runs may also occur when trader(s) are attempting to drive the price of a certain share down, although this is rare. Stock Bashing)"

Ramping (the market):
"Actions designed to artificially raise the market price of listed securities and to give the impression of voluminous trading, in order to make a quick profit."

Wash Trade:
"Selling and repurchasing the same or substantially the same security for the purpose of generating activity and increasing the price".

Bear Raid: "Attempting to push the price of a stock down by heavy selling or short selling."
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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 7:33 am

Which one of the ACTION/S or combination of ACTIONS happening on the 3 Poultry Shares right NOW.

This is SERIOUS issue and we all should TAKE NOTE.
Dirty Game has come to light with the Bull Run.
Knowing very well the impending RUN towards 7000+
This is an attempt to collect LOW for a Killing Profit Later.
Those victims of recent UNUSUAL sell off of GRAN and since of yesterday TAFL and BFL.

This is your place to VOICE your experience with the SHARES

I am not talking who took profit @80/82 levels before Quarterly Results.

This is NOT a JOKE, I mean SERIOUS

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Postby topcat » Thu May 18, 2017 7:52 am

Is that right shark? I also hold poultry with LT vision. But gran profit reduced and retailers got panicked and selling . My assumption would or wouldn't confirm tjl behavior today. Lets see. Its the same case. Reduced profit margin
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Postby sashimaal » Thu May 18, 2017 7:57 am

Shark, how can we inform SEC?
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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 8:00 am

Some dirty game driving the share to LOW when ASI was in 6000.
700 points UP and GRAN back to Square 1.
TC dont sell ..... average depending on your HOLD price, if you are comfortable then HOLD without further Buying.

You SELL you LOOSE. Thats the Name of the GAME.

Some unusual pattern of trading happening on GRAN.
Sorry i dont have proof as of now.
But smell something hatched to steal innocent retailers hard earned money.

coming back to TJL and going with ideology ..... we will see i hold my words...... as i dont want to instill fear.
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Postby Shadow walker » Thu May 18, 2017 8:01 am

topcat wrote:Is that right shark? I also hold poultry with LT vision. But gran profit reduced and retailers got panicked and selling . My assumption would or wouldn't confirm tjl behavior today. Lets see. Its the same case. Reduced profit margin


Its not same topcat.. TJL price can come down to 40 but thats the maximum , i think.... they have good management team and they will find a way to increase their profit.. dividend growth and GSP+ also positive factors for TJL.. :-bd

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Postby topcat » Thu May 18, 2017 8:04 am

Shark I never sell poultry with a loss... ;) Its always been a winner to me..
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Postby Xmart » Thu May 18, 2017 8:05 am

Thanks Shark,

Retailers are like nest of fish behind a ship. They change the course In fast moving direction. We can educate them but can't give them a brain. Few weeks back poultry stocks were super stocks with lot of potential but lately them become worthless.

There are bigger agendas in place in higher places. But people are too busy to stop and look back, they are busy chasing running counters. When crowd get enthusiastic we should be cautious. I read somewhere, average holding period of a shareholder has become 6 months from 8 years or some in last 15-20 years. People want 20-20 format in everything.

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Postby Shadow walker » Thu May 18, 2017 8:06 am

topcat wrote:Shark I never sell poultry with a loss... ;) Its always been a winner to me..



Thats good topcat.. now you can average your GRAN holding.. :-B :D
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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 8:08 am

sashimaal wrote:Shark, how can we inform SEC?


The first action we should take is to inform SEC the unusual pattern selling....... firstly on GRAN, then about last few days BFL and TAF.
Mind you TAF did well in the circumstances.
Next process is to request by SEC for recent trading details and to see if same party doing selling and buying...... especially on GRAN (WASH TRADES tactic)
The truth should be always OUT, and stern action taken.
As there is always a TRAIL in what they do.
We might be able find a whistle blower if we are lucky.
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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 8:10 am

We need to save the RETAILERS from these UGLY SHARKS who instill FEAR in drive the price down. Through there AGENTS they drive it UP later.
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Xmart wrote:Thanks Shark,

Retailers are like nest of fish behind a ship. They change the course In fast moving direction. We can educate them but can't give them a brain. Few weeks back poultry stocks were super stocks with lot of potential but lately them become worthless.

There are bigger agendas in place in higher places. But people are too busy to stop and look back, they are busy chasing running counters. When crowd get enthusiastic we should be cautious. I read somewhere, average holding period of a shareholder has become 6 months from 8 years or some in last 15-20 years. People want 20-20 format in everything.

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This is what broker firms want.. they wants more trades. It doesnt matter retailers in profit or loss they only target no of trades.. :-B
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Postby Value » Thu May 18, 2017 8:12 am

Shark, it could be possible a manipulation is happening and am sure you won't talk this serious unless you strongly believe or have heard it from reliable sources that such is happening.

Retailers are exiting counters like GRAN and funding the chase behind already highly appreciated counters to take on short term opportunities with the help of ASPI. Sadly it's directly or indirectly encouraged at forums including ours. Our retailers are prone to buy at top.

For me, it's the future potential that matters but not the past earnings, be it profit or loss. In that sense, the future potential of poultry companies at cse is immense. These companies will sure capitalise on the opportunities and deliver.

With this faith I had taken a long term view with the poultry shares and I am looking forward to increase my holdings of one poultry stock that I am in. Manipulators, demoters and panic retailers are helping us get cheap prices. We win by going against the crowd.

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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 8:13 am

Lets start collecting more information and proof.
Then as a community we shall officially write to SEC and CSE, Finance Minister, Prime Minister, President.
Also to the Newspapers.

Cause if its happening under these government ...... where should we seek justice.
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Postby Shadow walker » Thu May 18, 2017 8:16 am

Value wrote:Shark, it could be possible a manipulation is happening and am sure you won't talk this serious unless you strongly believe or have heard it from reliable sources that such is happening.

Retailers are exiting counters like GRAN and funding the chase behind already highly appreciated counters to take on short term opportunities with the help of ASPI. Sadly it's directly or indirectly encouraged at forums including ours. Our retailers are prone to buy at top.

For me, it's the future potential that matters but not the past earnings, be it profit or loss. In that sense, the future potential of poultry companies at cse is immense. These companies will sure capitalise on the opportunities and deliver.

With this faith I had taken a long term view with the poultry shares and I am looking forward to increase my holdings of one poultry stock that I am in. Manipulators, demoters and panic retailers are helping us get cheap prices. We win by going against the crowd.



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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 8:21 am

Value wrote:Shark, it could be possible a manipulation is happening and am sure you won't talk this serious unless you strongly believe or have heard it from reliable sources that such is happening.

Retailers are exiting counters like GRAN and funding the chase behind already highly appreciated counters to take on short term opportunities with the help of ASPI. Sadly it's directly or indirectly encouraged at forums including ours. Our retailers are prone to buy at top.

For me, it's the future potential that matters but not the past earnings, be it profit or loss. In that sense, the future potential of poultry companies at cse is immense. These companies will sure capitalise on the opportunities and deliver.

With this faith I had taken a long term view with the poultry shares and I am looking forward to increase my holdings of one poultry stock that I am in. Manipulators, demoters and panic retailers are helping us get cheap prices. We win by going against the crowd.


Thanks Value.... You Hit the Nail on its head when you said what matters is not the PAST but the FUTURE.
Either Retailers they are trying to net is unaware of this manipulation or typical traders looking for casino kind of quick profit.

but feeling really sorry for retailers as they dont have guidance ... they do what the brokers say and i feel some brokers are not aware but the very smart ones know it and keeping quiet and not doing anything to safeguard.

we at TEC at least have the opportunity to discuss and this is where community must come together.

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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 8:23 am

Shadow walker wrote:
Value wrote:Shark, it could be possible a manipulation is happening and am sure you won't talk this serious unless you strongly believe or have heard it from reliable sources that such is happening.

Retailers are exiting counters like GRAN and funding the chase behind already highly appreciated counters to take on short term opportunities with the help of ASPI. Sadly it's directly or indirectly encouraged at forums including ours. Our retailers are prone to buy at top.

For me, it's the future potential that matters but not the past earnings, be it profit or loss. In that sense, the future potential of poultry companies at cse is immense. These companies will sure capitalise on the opportunities and deliver.

With this faith I had taken a long term view with the poultry shares and I am looking forward to increase my holdings of one poultry stock that I am in. Manipulators, demoters and panic retailers are helping us get cheap prices. We win by going against the crowd.



"Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own." :-bd

What do you do when that BLOOD is of Innocent Retailer who in fear sold it had no choice because of few dirty rogues action to drive the price down [-x
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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 8:28 am

topcat wrote:Is that right shark? I also hold poultry with LT vision. But gran profit reduced and retailers got panicked and selling . My assumption would or wouldn't confirm tjl behavior today. Lets see. Its the same case. Reduced profit margin
This panic attack is not from retailers but a bunch of few under the mastermind of someone high and mighty...... driving the price down consequently.

inform to all known friends of this to stop this
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Postby SHARK » Thu May 18, 2017 8:34 am

Xmart wrote:Thanks Shark,

Retailers are like nest of fish behind a ship. They change the course In fast moving direction. We can educate them but can't give them a brain. Few weeks back poultry stocks were super stocks with lot of potential but lately them become worthless.

There are bigger agendas in place in higher places. But people are too busy to stop and look back, they are busy chasing running counters. When crowd get enthusiastic we should be cautious. I read somewhere, average holding period of a shareholder has become 6 months from 8 years or some in last 15-20 years. People want 20-20 format in everything.

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Thanks Xmart for standing up for what is right...... few people like you and others make this world a better place. but one bad egg can bring the whole thing down. so its a struggle worth fighting for to make it safe for our retailers.

There is a prima facie case on GRAN for SEC to open an enquiry.

It will be their JOB to conduct it for the better interest of RETAILERS.

Those have information please email me ..... we will collect all the proofs and submit to SEC chairman, CSE, President, Prime Ministers Office, Speaker of Parliament, Finance Minister, Harsha De Silva, Eran, Kabir Hashim, Patali, Sujeewa Senasinghe and Harin \m/

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Postby ck+ » Thu May 18, 2017 8:41 am

SHARK wrote:There is a prima facie case on GRAN for SEC to open an enquiry.

It will be their JOB to conduct it for the better interest of RETAILERS.

Those have information please email me ..... we will collect all the proofs and submit to SEC chairman, CSE, President, Prime Ministers Office, Finance Minister, Harsha De Silva, Eran, Kabir Hashim. m/

All Information provided will be kept confidential.

Bravo shark.. :-bd ..The forum is going into a whole new level. Very exciting and breathtaking.. :x


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